Plato, Aristotle, and Me
Renae Hartman
Andrews University
Plato and Aristotle are two of the most well known philosophers of all time. They had many drastic ideas for their time and many of their ideas have even shaped our world today. Their ideas about government, happiness, education, knowledge, law, women, slaves, virtue, and contextualism give insight into the foundational beliefs and understandings that shaped their worldview and subsequently Western society today. Since Aristotle studied under Plato many of their main beliefs are quite similar.
Plato had many ideas about almost all aspects of life. One of his most foundational ideas though was about virtue, knowledge, and happiness. He believed that people were all naturally
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good and that by using their intuition they would follow virtue and therefore become happy. Although this theory sounds reasonable and simple there are several underlying assumptions. First, the theory states that everyone is naturally good. This leads to the second point, which is that since everyone one is good, then truth and right can be found if they listen to their inner selves or intuition as he called it. Third, the theory touches on his idea of the four basic virtues: prudence, temperance, justice, and courage. Finally, it says that if you can follow virtue and align your actions with the virtues and your natural intuition then you will be happy. These ideas formed the foundation of his ideas on government (Richard, 2010). Plato’s ideas about government were centered around what he called mixed government.
Mixed government was based on the idea that “Our object in the construction of the State is the greatest happiness of the whole, and not that of any one class” (Boeree, 2009). Thus, all classes of people should be happy and not only the upper class. By using mixed government Plato thought to equalize power between the one, the few, and the many. This ideas about government has greatly impacted the way Western society thinks about and runs their government. The president, Senate, House and the way that they are organized around the Bill of Rights and the Constitution are all essentially based on Plato’s ideas and then later expanded by Aristotle’s philosophies (Richard, …show more content…
2010). Aristotle had many ideas similar to Plato in regards to the basics of his philosophical ideas and government. He also believed in mixed government and supported the balance of power between the upper and lower classes. He strongly advocated the need for a large middle class to help balance the differences between the rich and the poor (Richard, 2010). A strong believer in balance, Aristotle not only believed in balance in government but also in individual life.
In regards to virtue, he had a theory quite different from that of Plato, although he also believed in the four virtues, he believed in what he called the Golden Mean or the ultimate balance. Instead of continuing Plato’s idea that virtue can be discovered by intuition, he insisted that all knowledge must be learned including the knowledge of right and wrong (Kenny, 2014). He also thought that not all actions are either wrong or right under all circumstances but that the circumstances help to determine whether the action is right or wrong. Thus, Aristotle did not completely agree with everything Plato said but expanded and modified Plato’s theories (Richard,
2010). Although both Plato and Aristotle have good points and ideas in their respective areas I think that I tend to resonate more with Aristotle. There are many times in life when an action which could be right in one situation is wrong in a different situation. I also think that as humans we are not naturally good and must learn the difference between right and wrong and how to apply those principles to our life. Both Plato and Aristotle greatly influenced not only the people in their time but have continued to influence society right up to our day . Depending on the worldview that someone was raised with, they could tend to agree with and understand Plato or Aristotle. Although their theories did not always agree, both of them have good viewpoints and deep ideas that influence our lives. References Boeree, G. (2009). Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle. Retrieved September 13, 2015. Retrieved from http://webspace.ship.edu/cgboer/athenians.html Kenny, A. (2014, November 4). Aristotle. Retrieved September 13, 2015. Retrieved from http://www.britannica.com/biography/Aristotle Richard, C. (2010). Philosophy. In Why we're all Romans: The Roman contribution to the Western world. Lanham, MD: Rowman & Littlefield :.
Aristotle believes that society should achieve eternal happiness and just acts. Plato was also an influential philosopher due to his study of the nature of truths and virtues. Thomas Aquinas believed in moral and virtuous acts from a Spiritual perspective. Knowledge and the governance of the law relies on the contribution of several different effective
He stated, “So virtue is a provisional disposition… virtue is a mean; but in respect of what is right and what is right and best, it is an extreme (Aristotle, 42).” Here Aristotle explains that moral virtue is determined by reason and that it avoids the states of too much, excess, or too little, deficiency. He believes that our soul is the principle of living because it is inside of us. Therefore, for Aristotle the soul was morally which is where we are given the right reason. He believes that, “there are two parts of the soul, one rational and one irrational (Aristotle, 145).” The rational part, which is how he believe we should do our actions upon, consists of possessing reason, part that can think and command, and intellectual virtues, which are virtues that come from time and experience. Courage is a moral virtue. When having courage, you either have too much fear, which makes you a coward, or you have too little fear, where you’d be considered rash or fool hardy. Generosity is also a moral virtue. When you are generous, you are either giving too much, which makes you profligate, or you are giving too little which would consider you as a stingy person. Moral virtues lead you to happiness because of their intermediate state that is by
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Plato vs. Aristotle How do we explain the world around us? How can we get to the truth? Plato and Aristotle began the quest to find the answers thousands of years ago. Amazingly, all of philosophy since that time can be described as only a rehashing of the original argument between Plato and Aristotle. Plato and Aristotle's doctrines contrast in the concepts of reality, knowledge at birth, and the mechanism to find the truth.
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... state. In Plato's argument for the ideal state, the fundamental bonds which hold together his republic are unity and harmony. He explains how the just state is held together by the unity of each individual in each social class, and harmony between all three social classes. Plato explains how the ideal state must have citizens who are united in their goals. It is not the happiness of the individual but rather the happiness of the whole which keeps the just state ideal. At the same time, Plato argues that there must be harmony within the individual souls which make up the state. The lack of unity and harmony leads to despotism through anarchy which eventually arises within a democracy. Plato makes a clear argument, through The Republic, that without the unity and harmony of the individual and the state there can be no order and therefore there can be no ideal state.
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