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During their reading of the Iliad and the Aeneid, scores of readers only see the two great poets commenting on the nature of war and destruction. What countless do not see, however, are there passionate outcries on behalf of the tragic heroes and humanity itself. The author of the Iliad, Homer, has been theorized by some to be a collection of writers working in collaboration. Nevertheless, this author had an immeasurable effect on ancient Greek culture. The Aeneid was written by Virgil, who was born in 70 BCE and had two other works in addition to his epic masterpiece. Through their use of tragic heroes in The Iliad and The Aeneid, Virgil and Homer comment on humanity’s flaws, the oftentimes seemingly hopeless future and the courage necessary to face it, and the outcome of a tragic hero’s journey and its effects on others. This serves the purpose of illustrating that tragic heroes are perfect representatives of humanity as a whole because of what they experience in their lives. The tragic heroes created by Homer and Virgil are continuously beset by their archetypal flaws, which ultimately lead to death and/or misfortune for them. These primordial flaws, present since the beginning of time, have ever since plagued mankind and brought hardship upon men and women alike. One of the most noticeable flaws in the two epic poems is the sin of pride. The same pride that will not allow Hector to retreat inside the walls of Troy leads him to gloat against the Achaean warrior Achilles when he misses his spear throw. When he rashly boasts “A clean miss. Godlike as you are / you have not yet known doom for me from Zeus. / You thought you had by heaven. Then he [Achilles] turned / into a word-thrower, hoping to make me lose”, this only serves... ... middle of paper ... ... future they thought of as hopeless, and have negatively affected others, such as King Priam and Dido, through their actions. These disastrous flaws just further serve to prove that tragic heroes are ideal vehicles for an author to use when he wishes for readers to be familiar with a character. In fact, one can make a strong case that The Iliad and the Aeneid are portrayals of life itself, complete with sacrifice, flaws, and a life that may be without hope, but must be lived nonetheless. Works Cited Hamilton, Edith. Mythology. Boston: Little, Brown, and Company, 1942. 232,236. Homer. The Iliad. World Literature. Trans. Robert Fitzgerald. 3rd ed. Holt, Rinehart, and Winston: New York, 2001. 251, 255, 256, 254, 249, 248 Virgil. The Aeneid. World Literature. Trans. Robert Fitzgerald. 3rd ed. Holt, Rinehart, and Winston: New York, 2001. 387, 391, 386, 398,
Virgil. “The Aeneid, Book IV”. The Norton Anthology of Western Literature. 8th ed. Vol. 1. New York: W.W. Norton, 2006. 974-95. Print.
Lawall, Sarah N. “The Aeneid.” The Norton Anthology of Western Literature. 8th ed. Vol. 1. New York: W.W. Norton, 2006. 612-652. Print.
It is clear when reading the Aeneid that Virgil was familiar with the earlier works of Homer, The Iliad and The Odyssey. Virgil, more than just being aware of these earlier works, uses themes and ideas from these poems in his own. Far more than just copying scenes and ideas, Virgil expands and alters these themes to better tell his story, unique from the Greek originals he is drawing from. Virgil reveals what qualities he regards as heroic through the juxtaposition of Aeneas’ character and the negative aspects of the underworld. By looking at which qualities are esteemed and derided respectively, we can identify the qualities that Virgil would like to emphasize positively to his readers. Also, we can argue that Virgil is indeed trying to convey a particular set or morals to those readers. Beyond the underworld, it is possible to clearly identify these traits in the other sections of the poem where Virgil is borrowing and making his own alterations. Using these distinctions we can very clearly derive Virgil's morality from the poem, and see where Virgil's ideal characters veer away from the Greek ideal that came before.
Fagles, Robert. "The Iliad". The Norton Anthology of World Masterpieces. Maynard Mack, general editor--6th ed. W.W. Norton and Company, N.Y. 1992. 98-208.
Schein, Seth L. The Mortal Hero: An Introduction to Homer's Iliad. Berkeley: University of California Press, 1984.
Throughout the Iliad readers are presented with various warriors: the Trojans Polydamas, Glaucus, Agenor; the Achaeans Patroclus, little Ajax, big Ajax. They and others like them model Homer’s virtues. The clearest demonstration of them comes from the Iliad’s protagonist and antagonist Achilles (the Achaean hero) and Hector (the Trojan hero). Both of these characters are immensely strong, intently determined, and at the top of their respective armies. Both these characters are more than just amazing warriors. Through their personal conflicts, they demonstrate the Homeric hero. The Homeric hero must balance supporting their community and their own self-interests. It is the struggle of the Homeric hero between their own self-interest and the interests of the community, their egoistic and altruistic desires, which makes them more than just ordinary civilians in Greek society.
In addition, the overall theme of the poem highlighted morality, which was a definitive tenet of Greco Roman civilization. In many ways, Virgil wrote the poem as a means of lauding the moral virtues of Roman society and as a personal challenge to outdo Homer’s epic compositions, The Illiad and The Odyssey. Virgil was successful because he had incorporated many of the same tales shared in the works of Homer into one epic poem which presented a linear storyline in the books that detailed the life and times of Aeneas and the Trojans. That being said, Virgil did not stray far from the approach that many writers had used before him; his primary focus throughout the Aeneid was placed squarely upon the back of idealized Greek and Roman moral principles, which were the dedication to ones’ honor, family, and country. By no means is there anything wrong with this approach, but in many ways, the entire poem could be viewed as a “propaganda” piece; while it might have served to enlighten, educate, and create a cohesive and uplifting story for the Roman populace, the poem lacked depth and a more profound exploration of human intricacies. While Virgil’s epic poem has stood the test of time and remains one of the greatest pieces
Clarke, Howard. Homer's Readers: A Historical Introduction to the Iliad and the Odyssey. Newark, Del.: University of Delaware Press, 1981.
The Virgilis Aeneid and the Odyssey are ancient poems. The first thing to keep in mind is that the two epics are written from two opposing points of view: the victorious Greeks (for Homer) and the defeated Trojans (Virgil) who are destined to become united. The Virgilis Aeneid follows a legend of the Aeneas from the impeding last days of Troy to the Aenaes’ Victory. It also reflects on the synthesis of the Trojans and the Latinos to be united. On the other hand, the Odyssey talks of the Greek respected hero Odysseus and the long journey to his home with the impeding collapse of Troy. As a result, this paper bit by bit tries to compare and contrast various aspects of the two poems. More evident is the use of book six of the Aeneid and Book eleven of the Odyssey.
Simone Weil argues that the way Homer presents war and the use of force in the Iliad, in all of its brutality, violence, and bitterness bathes the work in the light of love and justice (pg 25). The point Weil is making is that by depicting the suffering of all of these men regardless of their side, or strength Homer equalizes them in a “condition common to all men”(pg 25). Because Homer equalizes them the reader can feel empathy, or at least compassion for all of the men. However while Weil is correct about how Homer’s descriptions of war and force reveal justice and love, she is wrong in thinking that justice and love are mere “accents” to the Iliad, and progress through the story “without ever becoming noticeable”(pg 25). Homer not only reveals this underlying idea to the reader through his tone and even handedness, but also through Achilles’ journey. By the end of the Iliad Achilles understands justice and love in much the same way that the reader does.
Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. Schein, Seth L. The Mortal Hero: An Introduction to Homer's Iliad. Berkeley: University of California Press, 1984. Segal, Charles.
Throughout the text, major characters seem to be at constant battle with their different emotions. This inner conflict is mirrored by the everyday conflicts between the gods. Just as Zeus and Hera are constantly at odds with one another, so are the different sides of Achilles: his cultural responsibility, pride, honor, and revenge. No one is completely at peace with his or her conflicting emotions in The Iliad – and therefore, neither are the gods, who represent these emotions. Hector is a prime example of a human who finds himself torn between two forces: his love for his growing family, and his duty as a prince of Troy. He admits to Andromache that he worries about his own mortality, but emphasizes that “I would die of shame to face the men of Troy…if I would shrink from battle now, a coward.” (Homer 6: 523, 525). Hector’s deeply ingrained sense of honor and loyalty to home is clearly established in the beginning of the text. Therefore, when Zeus later grants Hector “power to kill and kill till you cut your way to the benched ships” (Homer 11: 241-242), it is not too much of a stretch to attribute Hector’s dodged perseverance to his upbringing and rigid sense of duty, rather than to the
"The Iliad is a poem that celebrates the heroic values war imposes on its votaries (27)." Homer himself describes war as "bringing glory to man." War is a huge part of both the Achaeans and the Trojans' lives. Characters gain glory through their performances and bravery in battle. Furthermore, Homer persuades the reader that war is the glorious way to settle a dispute. For example, Hector and other Trojans scorn Paris for backing down from Menelaus. On the other hand, Achilles acquires glory by deferring the option of a long, peaceful life in order to fight and become an epic hero. The characters in The Iliad value honor and glory to such a degree that they are willing to give up life itself in order to possess it.
Homer is credited for writing epics that generate source materials for the modern world. The Iliad and the Odyssey by Homer are captivating stories with fascinating heroic characters. The Homer stories share with classical mythology typical recurrent motifs. The two Homer epic poems focus on the Trojan War, and its result. The epic poems contain the Greek mythology featuring the Greek gods, goddesses, mythological creatures, and the Greek heroes, and heroines. In addition, the principal motifs typical of classical mythological hero stories are; the dominance of fate, evil fighting against the gods, and death. In both the classic mythology, and he modern fiction hero stories, the heroes always have a helper in their expedition, but ultimately, they have to stand alone, face the darkness, and conquer it in order to become victorious.
...was conflicted by the philosophers. In Iliad, palaces built and created works of art that sill dazzle the eye Doric palaces was built and the Doric style, symbolizes many aspects of the Archaic period exposition of balance, ordered, and proportioned. Homer epics poetry maintain something of the material side of the Mycenaean period. Yet in filling in the details of political, economic, and social life; the religious beliefs and practices; and the ideals that gave meaning to life; the poet could only describe what was familiar to him in his own age. The values that gave meaning to life in the Homeric Age were predominantly heroic values - the strength, skill, and valor of the preeminent warrior. The two Greek epics the Iliad and the Odyssey expressed his characters’ sorrow and happiness, hopes and fears, and most especially their love of life and certainty of death.