Bernard Williams argues that death an immortal existence is a meaningless one and it is not desirable. He uses sources such as the Makropulos case to support his claim. I’m going to be arguing that living forever is not desirable and that death is good. First I will discuss Williams’ view and why I agree with him and then I’m going to explain why I disagree with views that go against that of Williams.
Bernard Williams discussed the case of Elina Makropulos and used it to argue for his claim that living forever is not desirable. William says that living forever, also known as immortality, isn’t desirable because of the miseries that you will see if you live forever. In the Makropulos Affair, a famous three scene opera, Elina Makropulos was
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given an elixir from her father that allowed her to live another 300 years at her biological age. By the end of the opera, Makropulos was allowed to choose to either take the elixir again, or die naturally. She chose to die naturally at the end, and this opera helps justify William’s argument. I support William’s argument because I believe that if I were in Makropulos’s position, I would have chosen to die as well. Living for so long is not desirable because you will experience a lot of misery during those three centuries. A life of immortality is a life without meaning because you are living in a life that is changeless. Life is changeless because things always repeat itself. Something that happens in the past will always repeat itself in the future. This life that is being referred to is a human life instead of a godlike life, which makes the life ordinary. Because a human life is nothing compared to a godlike life, this immortal life is meaningless. You’re simply going in a cycle that never changes. In an immortal life, you will essentially lose the will to live because you lose some of your desires. Categorical desires, desires that give you the motivation to go through life, would not be able to last long enough to help make your life worthwhile. Categorical desires, such as hoping that your children will be successful once they leave the house, would not be adequate because of such a long lifespan. Immortality allows you to achieve things that ordinary humans cannot achieve, and you will eventually be alive with nothing to strive for. According to Bernard Williams, in order to live a meaningful life, you need to have a list of categorical desires that you want to accomplish and achieve. However, because immortality allows you to continue striving for these categorical desires and eventually achieve them, in a matter of time, you will run out of categorical desires. In an immortal life, there isn’t much of an obstacle that stops you from achieving your categorical desires which makes a human’s life peculiarly empty and boring. Williams argues that “if one lived forever in a recognizably human form, one would exhaust one’s set of categorical desire and become bored and apathetic as a result”. And as a result of running out of categorical desires, boredom is created. I believe that your life will be dull once you have accomplished everything you want. One philosopher, Donald Bruckner criticized Bernard Williams’s view on immortality, saying that Williams left out three important factors into immortality.
Donald Bruckner states that Williams is forgetting the concept of memory decay, desire rejuvenation, and human ingenuity. First, Bruckner says that memory decay, the concept of how human brains have limited space and that humans will eventually forget some of their categorical desires, allows immortals to become excited and motivated by a desire that they achieved a long time ago, but just have forgotten. Although it is true that people are limited in memory capacity, I believe that there is no way that you can completely forget about the accomplishments that you achieved a long time ago. Accomplishments are defined as things that you achieved and is significant. Something that is significant cannot simply be just “forgotten” and even if it is, some of it will still remain in your conscience. In some categorical desires, you will remember it for as you live, which in this case, forever. For example, let’s say that mastering how to ride a bike is a categorical desire; it is impossible to completely forget how to ride a bike because you will see it so often and you will retain muscle memory for riding a bike. Therefore, Bruckner’s argument of memory decay is unsound because every achievement, no matter how small, will rest in your brain. Other achievements are also not easily forgotten because of the amount of times you would do it because you are immortal. If you do something a certain amount of times, then it will stay in your memory
forever. Second, Bruckner says that desire rejuvenation, the concept of how people will forget what these accomplishments feel like and desire to feel it again, would make life less boring because you will want to get that feeling again. Essentially, Bruckner is saying that immortal life isn’t that boring because you can always jump back into your “pool” of desires once again, even though you’ve done it before. Although I do agree with this point, Bruckner is forgetting that this is an immortal life. I believe that Bruckner’s point would only be correct if a person lived longer than an ordinary person, but not valid if a person will live forever. An immortal person would be able to “jump into his pool of desires” too many times and it will eventually dry out. It is intuitive that nothing in life can be so interesting that it can be recycled an infinite amount of times. Completing a categorical desire gives you a feeling that is far superior from any other feeling and I don’t think you will be able to forget that feeling and even if you did, you would still have a little bit of that feeling within you. Also, if you were to repeat this feeling, this feeling with eventually become mundane. It is plausible that a categorical desire is unique and different from other kinds of desires because it is not easy to achieve. However, since you’re living an immortal life, you are repeating these categorical desires, and therefore these desires become mundane every day activities to an immortal life. Third, Buckner says that human ingenuity, the ability for humans to create something new and exhilarating, allows immortals to discover something that will help them avoid boredom. This is a true to an extent because human ingenuity has a limit while an immortal’s life is limitless. Human ingenuity is limited because I believe that there is only so much creativity in an individual’s mind. Humans begin to recycle ideas because they are unable to create new ones. Whatever human ingenuity comes up with will eventually wear out because nothing lasts forever. There is always going to be an end to anything in the world, except for an immortal’s life. An immortal person will still end up bored after this “human invention” dries out. Buckner justifies human ingenuity by saying that it only has to last as long as desire rejuvenation kicks in, but I already stated that that will eventually becoming mundane as well. Eventually, an immortal person will live in a cycle, going back and forth with nothing new to expect in the future. I believe that death is good and helps you avoid from living in a repeated cycle that will never end. One of the most important reasons why death is better than immortality is the issue of suffering, also known as pain that doesn’t give human pleasure. As an immortal, you don’t decay, you don’t age, and you don’t die like the people around you. Watching the people you care about die while you are completely healthy really takes a toll on your mental health. Watching everything die around you makes you lose your sense of being human, and eventually you will lose yourself. I feel like this factors into the quality of life and how the longer you live, the lower your quality of life deteriorates. Also, an immortal human cannot be freed from the suffering of death because it will always happen; there will be no end to it. You can’t simply forget the death of someone you care about, whether you are immortal or not. And going back to Bruckner’s idea of memory decay, even if a large amount of your known deaths slowly fades away, a new, recent death may potentially spark all the deaths you’ve known back into your mind. This cruelty of living forever makes death desirable and help you realize that immortality is not desirable. Williams believes that death can be good when it helps us avoid infinite boredom. This is similar to my view on how death can help us avoid suffering in a sense that death is good and can help relieve things we don’t want. I also agree with his view on how death is a relief to boredom. In conclusion, I have argued that death is good and immortality is not desirable. I support William’s views on death and immortality and how it can help us avoid a life of boredom.
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Plato argues for the immortality of the soul in the Phaedo. He provides 3 arguments for his theory, the arguments from opposites, recollection, and affinity. Each argument proposes an intriguing account for his claim that the soul must exist past death. His evidence and proposal for each account leave no room for counterarguments. Fellow philosophers like Simmias and Cebes provide two different counters for Plato’s claim, however he accurately disproves them by using his 3 arguments as rebuttal. Plato’s three arguments for the proving of the immortality and longevity of a soul provide clear and concise reasons to agree with his approach.
We should not focus on pleasures of the body and only fulfill those that are necessary to live. The soul’s only desire is wisdom, which can only be achieved through the intellect and not through the deceitful senses. This can be illustrated by the fact that the true form of things such as justice, beauty and goodness can never be perceived through the senses. However, we are born with some sort of sense of what these things are, therefore there must be an ideal form which the things in the emperical world are somewhat equal to. Since the mind already has a sense of these forms when its born, the soul needs to be immortal. (102-104,