When you were little, you were always told to defend yourself if someone was coming at you. But is it self-defense if you weren’t being attacked? Johnny Cade was beat up pretty bad by a Soc, someone who is very privileged, with many rings. Later, we find out this is Bob. One night, as Ponyboy and Johnny were by themselves, five Socs, three of them Randy, Bob, and David, came up to them mad because they were walking with their girlfriends. Johnny told them to stay back, but they didn’t. Bob told David to give Ponyboy a “bath” after Ponyboy spat at them. David then grabbed him and ducked his head in the water. Johnny killed Bob to save Ponyboy. Some may say Johnny killed Bob in self-defense, but Johnny was not the one being attacked, Ponyboy was. Also, Bob wasn’t doing anything to Ponyboy, David was. So, how can you kill someone when they were doing nothing?
Throughout the years, many feuds between Greasers (under privileged) and Socs
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(over privileged) have occurred. I’m not saying it’s right, but it seems as if Johnny attacked Bob from his previous experiences with him. When Johnny was jumped the first time, he says that what cut him up so badly was all the rings on some guy's’ fingers. Clearly, the Soc was Bob. (Page 33) When Ponyboy is done telling the story of Johnny getting beaten up, he states that Johnny will kill the next person who tries to jump him, therefore already planning a murder.(Page 34) Also, when Bob shows up at the theater, Ponyboy and Johnny realize that Bob was the person who beat up Johnny. Although Johnny did save Ponyboy, did he really need to kill anybody?
And if he did, why didn’t he kill David instead of Bob? On Page 55, it clearly says that David was the one drowning Ponyboy, not Bob. People also might say, “Oh, it was an accident, he didn’t mean to.” But Johnny was already planning on killing Bob because of what he did to him.
After Johnny commits the crime, they go to Dally’s seeking protection from avenging Socs, who might try to kill them. But if Johnny was innocent, why couldn’t they just confront the police of the accident? If they had, it wouldn’t have been such a big deal. But then, Dally decided to lie about their location to the police, thus making things more suspicious. Why do you lie and run away if you’re innocent? It’s because you’re not. You’re guilty.
All of this evidence is true. I’m giving you all the facts about the night Bob was murdered, proving Johnny Cade guilty. Especially since Bob never even touched Johnny or Ponyboy. With all these reasons, Johnny Cade should be convicted of
murder.
Johnny stabbed Bob in self defense. One quote that supports this is when Ponyboy thought to himself, “I’m dying.” and, “I’m drowning.” One other quote to support this is when Johnny said, “I had to. They were drowning you, Pony. They might have killed you.” This quote means that Ponyboy was going to die unless the Socs stopped holding him underwater. Johnny was able to see that Bob was killing his friend so in defense he stabbed him to make him stop. One more detail that supports this is that Johnny was a good kid that would not kill someone unless he had to. One quote that supports this is when Ponyboy described him. He said, “Johnny Cade was last and least.” and when he said, “Smaller than the rest, with a slight build.” Johnny was also described
Reason 1: Johnny is not guilty because the Socs were not in their own territory.
Dally breaks every law possible, while Johnny is very yielding of the law. Dally thinks he is above law, he goes around looking for trouble. For example, breaking Tim Shepard’s tires or sneaking into the drive-in when he has enough money to pay emission. He just wants to look cool, like the police and law do not own him. Ponyboy describes him as “Dally hated to do things the legal way. He liked to show that he didn’t care whether there was a law or not. He went around trying to break laws” (20). He even has a gun with him always unloaded of course, but he would only use it to scare people off. However, Johnny does not break the law as much as Dally. He only just started carrying a switchblade because he got beaten up badly. The rest of the gang has carried switchblades for a while. Ponyboy even says how Johnny is the most law following of them all “ Johnny, who was the most law-abiding of us” (34). Johnny, unlike Dally, does not talk back to cops. Johnny and Dally are very different people because of how they act to look cool and their ability to follow the
..., even by Ponyboy, who is the youngest of the group and two years younger than Johnny. Dally, the toughest and the meanest guy in The Greasers, is Johnny’s idol and seeing how he acts in situations probably influenced Johnny’s choice of action. Watching these bigger guys close in on him and Ponyboy being drowned, he was probably thinking, ‘what would Dally do what would Dally do?’ So he did what he thought Dally would do he pulled out the knife and stabbed Bob Sheldon so he would have extra hands helping him to fight off the rest of the guys, but that did not happen because they ran off in fear of Johnny.
I have two evidences showing when Ponyboy gets about Dallas feelings and when he robes a corner store and lets shoot by the police .Because Of Bob and his crew 1.They wouldn't have run away 2.wouldn't have run into a church on fire 4.the rumble wouldn't have start and 5. Johnny woulden have dyed .
Although Johnny did kill someone these are reasons why a boy named Johnny is innocent. Johnny is innocent and is the hero of the gang because he had saved kids from a burning church and he kept Bob from killing Pony. This proves that Johnny is a hero of the
This case was so far in the drain, that any and everything was accepted. Della Pesca oversaw all evidence and dealt with all parties involved. The 9-1-1 operator who received the call took notes from the complaining party and gave the responding officers everything she received. The dispatcher who was working that never signed off on the call because Della Pesca bribed her into not doing so. That decision went against that dispatchers training and ethics. No matter the circumstance, no victim or offender should be held accountable for something they did not do. Her loyalty was more to Della Pesca than getting to the truth. Alfred Bello who was also a suspect in the case, said that both John and Rubin was present during the murder but only stated that when Pesca used unethical tactics against him. It was easy to fabricate evidence after the people who saw the murder happen. Even when the victim said Rubin was not his shooter Pesca pressured him into saying so. An officer did look for the truth and came close to finding the truth died before he could do anything to help the case. Thankful for a kid and his teachers who believed in Carters innocence they went on to find justice. While doing so they came close to finding justice when Della Pesca threaten them. He knew they were closing in on what actually happen and Carter was
I understand that I am going to attempt to keep Johnny out of jail because what he had done in my perspective was self defense. This happened in The Outsiders book. Hinton, S. E. The Outsiders. New York: Viking, 1967. Print. I feel that you may think that Johnny is guilty of homicide because he had killed Bob during the evening by the park. He had not attempted to kill him, he was using self defence, as the novel had stated in chapter 4, Johnny warns the socs that showed up that they were in a part of town that they were not supposed to be in but the socs ignored the warning and still provoked the fight. Later in chapter 4 it also informs us that the socs were starting to drown Ponyboy so Johnny had used his switchblade without really meaning to kill anyone. Johnny has informed me that he and Ponyboy Curtis were walking in the park in the evening and that a vehicle had shown up and some boys had gotten out and threatened them. These boys had pulled out a knife and threatened to use it against them. One of the boys then started to assault Johnny and another attacked Ponyboy. The one attacking Ponyboy then decided to move him to a fountain and tried to drown him. When Johnny realized what they were doing he had turned to them and pulled out a knife and flung at them without meaning to kill Bob. But keep in mind that Bob was drowning Ponyboy so this act was used in defense. I feel that Johnny is innocent because he was using self defense, but he should not have ran from the crime scene. Another thing in chapter 4 was that a little while later when Ponyboy came conscious again Johnny said, "I had to. They were drowning you, Pony. “They might have killed you. And they had a blade... they were gonna beat me up...." I found this informat...
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