Plato And Thrasymachus And Plato's Theory Of Morality

1010 Words3 Pages
bulb-icon

Recommended: Morality and its effects

Morality is a key within all principles that it balances wrong and right behavior and the goodness or badness of any human character. Morality is essential; it has guided the evolution of humanity. It is to be judged differently by all human being. Plato and Thrasymachus had different opinion when it came to the notion of justice. Thrasymachus focused on obedience and Plato defined in two analogs. Plato the notion of justice is an individual who fulfilled his or her proper role in the society and who always knew and remembered to give back to society what is due by them. Plato believes that the moral and fair man in society will triumph over the tyrant by doing what is right and just for everyone. In the opposite hand in Thrasymachus’ mind notion of justice is the existence of the rightest (Posner, …show more content…

Countless who were weak the strongest would overcome then since they were not up to their standards. In his mind those you were strong would always have the victory and will grasp the power making the weakest not be noticeable at all. It conflicted in every way because Plato not only looked for the good for himself but everyone else and he wanted many to learn to have morals (Kinneging, 2001). Thrasymuchus was selfish anything that gave him more power he wanted to obtain and being the influence to many to be or think just like him. His impression was that men has the right that as long as they can handle or manage the power they can prerogative power and do as they please. As long as they got away with it and there were no consequences or moral punishment. Plato always thought positively thinking and hoping all men will learn to do good and have moral for the sake of all society. Earning power by doing what is right and fair for all preventing for anyone including the tyrants to take over controlling all with their unfairness. Plato not only wanted to give power to men individually to make their soul good but to

Show More
Related

  • Plato's Response to Thrasymachus' Immoralist View of Justice

    1494 Words  | 3 Pages

    In Book 1 of the ‘Republic’, Socrates, in answer to the question ‘What is Justice?’ is presented with a real and dangerous alternative to what he thinks to be the truth about Justice. Julia Annas believes Thrasymachus thinks Justice and Injustice do have a real existence that is independent of human institutions; and that Thrasymachus makes a decided commitment to Injustice. She calls this view ‘Immoralism’: “the immoralist holds that there is an important question about justice, to be answered by showing that injustice is better.” This essay identifies this ‘Immoral’ view before understanding if and how Plato can respond to it. How does Plato attempt to refute Thrasymachus’s argument? Is he successful?

    Read More

  • Justice in Plato's The Republic

    961 Words  | 2 Pages

    Marra, James L., Zelnick, Stephen C., and Mattson, Mark T.   IH 51 Source Book: Plato,  The Republic, pp. 77-106. Kendall/Hunt Publishing Company, Dubuque, Iowa, 1998.

    Read More

  • Justice Exemplified by Plato and Thucydides

    618 Words  | 2 Pages

    In conclusion three notions of justice developed in Book I of The Republics of Plato are outlined in On Justice, Power and Human Nature. Justice is viewed as telling the truth and paying debts, doing good to friends and harm to enemies, and the advantage of the stronger.

    Read More

  • Glaucon's Challenge and Plato's Theory of Justice in Plato's Republic

    1807 Words  | 4 Pages

    Plato’s Republic focuses on one particular question: is it better to be just or unjust? Thrasymachus introduces this question in book I by suggesting that justice is established as an advantage to the stronger, who may act unjustly, so that the weak will “act justly” by serving in their interests. Therefore, he claims that justice is “stronger, freer, and more masterly than justice” (Plato, Republic 344c). Plato begins to argue that injustice is never more profitable to a person than justice and Thrasymachus withdraws from the argument, granting Plato’s response. Glaucon, however, is not satisfied and proposes a challenge to Plato to prove that justice is intrinsically valuable and that living a just life is always superior. This paper will explain Glaucon’s challenge to Plato regarding the value of justice, followed by Plato’s response in which he argues that his theory of justice, explained by three parts of the soul, proves the intrinsic value of justice and that a just life is preeminent. Finally, it will be shown that Plato’s response succeeds in answering Glaucon’s challenge.

    Read More

  • Nature Vs Nurture In Plato's The Republic

    1435 Words  | 3 Pages

    It is his companions, Glaucon and Adeimantus, who revitalized Thrasymachus’ claim of justice. Thrasymachus believes that justice is what the people who are in charge say it is and from that point on it is Socrates’ goal to prove him wrong. Socrates believes that justice is desired for itself and works as a benefit. All four characters would agree that justice has a benefit. To accurately prove his point of justice, Socrates has to reference his own version of nature and nurture. He, Socrates, believes that justice is innately born in everyone. No one person is incapable of being just. Justice is tantamount to a skill or talent. Like any skill or talent, justice must be nurtured so that it is at its peak and mastered form. The city that Socrates has built is perfect in his eyes because every denizen has been gifted with a talent, then properly educated on how best to use their talent, and lastly able to apply their just morals in everyday

    Read More

  • Morality and Laws in The Trial and Death of Socrates

    1245 Words  | 3 Pages

    Upon reading Plato, The Trial and Death of Socrates, Socrates strongly held views on the relationship between morality and laws become apparent to the reader. Equally, Socrates makes clear why laws should be followed and why disobedience to the law is rarely justified.

    Read More

  • Human Nature and Moral Theory in Plato’s Republic

    1916 Words  | 4 Pages

    Human Nature and Moral Theory in Plato’s Republic. In Chapter 2 of Republic, Glaucon uses the Myth of the Lydian Shepherd to portray a pessimistic view of human nature. Plato, the author of Republic, uses his brother Glaucon to tell the Myth of the Lydian Shepherd. We are led to believe that Plato takes the myth and its implications on human nature very seriously by using a personal character.

    Read More

  • Justice In Plato's The Republic

    1072 Words  | 3 Pages

    Also, that justice is a certain type of specialization, meaning that performing a particular task that is a person’s own, not of someone else’s. Plato (2007), Polemarchus argues with Socrates in book I that, “Justice was to do good to a friend and harm to an enemy” (335b p.13). Plato (2007) he then responds, “It is not the function of the just man to harm either his friends or anyone else, but of his opposite the unjust man” (335d p.14). His views of justice are related to contemporary culture, because when someone does something that they are supposed to do, they receive credit or a reward for it, but if the opposite of that is performed, by not doing the particular task that is asked, they are then rewarded but with punishments. Also, that justice is doing the right thing in a society. Justice of contemporary culture does not diverge from the views offered in The Republic and Socrates views are adequate, because if a task is not performed the way it needs to be, and is supposed to be a person should not be rewarded for it. Additionally, that an individual should be just not

    Read More

  • Thrasymachus and Socrates

    771 Words  | 2 Pages

    In Plato’s The Republic, we, the readers, are presented with two characters that have opposing views on a simple, yet elusive question: what is justice? In this paper, I will explain Thrasymachus’ definition of justice, as well as Socrates’s rebuttals and differences in opinion. In addition, I will comment on the different arguments made by both Socrates and Thrasymachus, and offer critical commentary and examples to illustrate my agreement or disagreement with the particular argument at hand.

    Read More

  • Plato And Paternalism

    1087 Words  | 3 Pages

    Plato defends himself by explaining that he is thinking what is best for society, and not just for one specific group. If there is an exceptional good person, it is further exceptional for them to identify and further trained because it is what is best for the collective good, and of that exceptionally good must take justice into their own hands. (186). He argues that the guardians are always on the scent for truth, like dogs who are the most philosophical of all animals, so therefore they should rule because in a way they are like philosophers, and Plato believes the philosophers are titled to become rulers. (explain the corruption part on 188.) When Munitiz brings up the how Plato lays out only a program for the ruling class. He counteracts acts that statement and explains that he only wants a city where are the citizens are able to achieve their virtues leading them to their happiness, but for that to happen it requires rulers to be one with city and will never exploit it. He claims this would lead to not only a just city, but justice for

    Read More

  • Justice vs Revenge

    1309 Words  | 3 Pages

    Hourani, George. Thrasymachus' Definition of Justice in Plato's Republic. 2. 7. Focus Publishing, 1962. eBook. .

    Read More

  • Plato's Views on Happiness

    928 Words  | 2 Pages

    To be just or unjust. To be happy or unhappy? Men fall into these two categories. Why does a man act according to these 2 extremes? Is it because they fear punishment? Are they quivering in fear of divine retribution? Or do men do just things because it is good for them to do so? Is justice, good of its rewards and consequences? Or is it good for itself. What is justice? Are the people who are just, just as happy as the people who are unjust? Plato sheds light on these questions and says yes, I have the definition of justice and yes, just people are happy if not happier than unjust people. Plato show’s that justice is worthwhile in and of itself and that being a just person equates to being a happy person. In my opinion, Plato does a good job and is accurate when explaining what it is to be just and this definition is an adequate solution to repairing an unjust person or an unjust city or anything that has an unjust virtue and using the definition of what justice is accurately explains why just people are happier than unjust people.

    Read More

  • An Analysis Of Plato's Theory On Human Nature

    914 Words  | 2 Pages

    Plato widely a respected philosopher and is arguably one of the greatest philosophers of all time. I knew nothing about him or what he stood for before taking this course and I found his theory on human nature very exciting. “Plato’s most fundamental contribution to philosophy was the distinction he drew between the changing physical objects we perceive with our senses and the under changing ideals we can know with our minds.” What Plato means is when we see something that we think is good or bad that there is good strong reasoning behind why we think the way we do. I find this very intriguing because, this it pertains to how I feel about everyday things and big Icons. For example, when hanging out at a friend’s house that is considerably richer

    Read More

  • The Importance Of Justice In Plato's Republic

    1440 Words  | 3 Pages

    For Plato’s thesis – justice pays – to be validated, he has to prove two things, the first being that justice is inherently good. In

    Read More

  • Platos' Theory of Human Nature

    1040 Words  | 3 Pages

    In my opinion, Socrates’ analysis of human nature is very true as it ultimately brings us

    Read More

More about Plato And Thrasymachus And Plato's Theory Of Morality

Open Document