Socrates Vs Meno Essay

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In the Meno by Plato, Socrates and Meno attempt to define virtue as an entity and establish whether or not this is a quality that can be taught. According to Socrates, in order for us to possess a quality such as being virtuous, we have to have knowledge of the matter. Meno’s paradox plays a central role in the dialogue as it questions how we can be certain we have arrived at the correct answer. Through the Socratic method of elenchus (to be explained), leading characters into a state of aporia (to be explained) and a geometric lesson, Socrates shows us how we can perform scientific research and reach an answer previously unknown to us. In order to begin scientific research, we have to admit we do not know the answer we are seeking, we have

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