The Iliad, an epic poem accredited to the ancient Greek poet Homer, written down in the 8th Century BC (having been a part of Greek oral tradition for much longer), is the story of the decade-long the Trojan War. More specifically, it covers a short period of the war, but references it’s beginning and end briefly, as well. This quote is from the protagonist Achilles, on the possibilities of his fate. […]Two fates bear me on to the day of death. If I hold out here and I lay siege to Troy, my journey home is gone, but my glory never dies. If I voyage back to the fatherland I love, my pride, my glory dies...True, but the life that's left me will be long, the stroke of death will not come on me quickly. (Book 9, 499-505) It is seen that Achilles …show more content…
As Hera wisely says, however, this would be futile. For if Zeus were to successfully save his son from this death, his fate would only loom down on him even heavier; surely he would die elsewhere soon. As shown with Sarpedon and Achilles himself, fate is a critical part of their lives. Free will in the Iliad does not truly exist for mortals or Gods; it can arguably be exercised, but fate will always have its way in the end. If one avoids it, it will only work harder to make sure one follows it eventually. The ramifications of this mindset on the outlook of the ancient Greeks cannot be underestimated. If a culture truly believes that all lives are determined by forces outside of their control, then the decisions they make are going to be different than if they believed they had free will. If one does not believe in free will, then they may not make bold, original decisions; they may opt instead to simply do whatever seems most in-line with their predetermined fate. In this way, a culture will stagnate; that is, people will not live up to their full potential. One of the other juggernauts in Western literature is the Torah, also known as the Old Testament. I will consider the relationship between God and humans, and how God controls the lives of his
Fate and free will, two subjects that go hand in hand in the Odyssey. The Odyssey is filled with examples of both fate and free will. I believe the gods of the Odyssey interfere with the lives of humans, but don’t control their lives completely. I also believe that humans in the Odyssey have some control over their lives, but do they?
There may be no greater fact known than that of human beings seeking a purpose in this life. Are we here simply because of our parents meeting or are we here because God ordained it for some divine reason unfathomable by yourself, but seen by those in your community? What would the world be if Gandhi had not examined himself in his writings? Ultimately we will never know the consequences of unexamined lives because it is simply human nature to seek a purpose, no matter the situation you are born into; meaning, rather King or citizen we all seek to examine our lives to find reason. This brings us to Achilles, the main hero of Homer’s The Iliad and the life that he eventually found a purpose in. This essay will seek to explore through Socrates quotation, “The unexamined life is not wroth living” how Achilles longing for a purpose affected the Achaean community at large both militarily and politically.
Towards the end of The Iliad, once Hektor becomes the only Trojan left standing outside the gates of Troy after the Trojans were forced to retreat, Achilles begins the fight that would lead to Hektor’s demise. The strongest fighter of the Trojans, Hektor, finally went up against the strongest fighter of the Greeks, Achilles. Homer’s lengthened simile in Book 22, lines 158-166, thoroughly exemplifies the competing nature that was so prevalent between the Trojans and the Greeks. Homer uses this epic simile to depict the need to win at all costs, regardless of the outcome in some circumstances. For some, the outcome is of little importance, while for others, it is a matter of life or death.
You are permitted on settle on your choices yet you need support not permitted to lift those results" that quote recognizes for a few pieces in the odyssey. The subject "Through Also through flexibility is An all the all the more persuading move over destiny" may be for a few encounters in the odyssey: those secured proprietor, eating up Hyperions dairy creatures, Moreover The minute that odysseus returns home.
While mortals do not unjustly complain about their fates, they fail to acknowledge that they are also responsible for their ill fate, as mortals themselves, possess a sizable degree of control. There is little doubt that Odysseus and his crew are unlucky, but had it not been for their brash decisions they would have reached Ithaca much sooner. After Od...
During Odysseus’s journey in The Odyssey, his own guile, the gods’ obstacles and their assistance for him affected his destiny. Odysseus uses his crafty sense of trickery and guile to get out of situations, which allow him to reach his destiny of returning home. Many times in The Odyssey the gods who dislike Odysseus set obstacles to try to stop him from returning home. However, there are gods who favor him and give him assistance to reach his homeland of Ithaca.
In Sophocles ' Oedipus the King, the themes of fate and free will are very strong throughout the play. Only one, however, brought about Oedipus ' downfall and death. Both points could be argued to great effect. In ancient Greece, fate was considered to be a rudimentary part of daily life. Every aspect of life depended and was based upon fate (Nagle 100). It is common belief to assume that mankind does indeed have free will and each individual can decide the outcome of his or her life. Fate and free will both decide the fate of Oedipus the King.
Fate has a place in the Greek world but its place is not the same as it is in other scenarios or worlds. It is important to understand the word before we discuss it. Fate as far as Greek mythology goes is not just fate. By most standards fate means that things occur for an unknown reason that no one has any control over. However, in the world of Greek Mythology fate does not just happen. The gods engineer fate and they interfere to make things happen that might not otherwise have happened. Since the players do not always know of the gods' involvement, things may actually appear to be fate but in reality be engineered happenings.
"Andromache, dear one, why so desperate? Why so much grief for me? No man will hurl me down to Death, against my fate. And fate? No one alive has ever escaped it, neither brave man nor coward, I tell you it 's born with us the day that we are born. So please go home and tend to your own tasks, the distaff and the loom, and keep the women working hard as well. As for the fighting, men will see to that, all who were born in Troy but I most of all" (Homer 6. 579-589). These particular lines demonstrate Hectors ' loyalty to his family and how far he is willing to go for his family. He is willing to die for his family but before he does, he starts to ensure that his family remains safe. Family seems to a driving factor in Hectors ' life, which could be viewed as a negative thing. For him to drop everything in the world for his family, even risk his life for them could stab him in the back if he let it. For example, if his wife was in grave peril and he had to choose between the lives of his people during a war or her life, he would choose her life but a smart leader would choose the lives of his
Throughout Homer’s epic poem, The Iliad, gods are presented as remarkably human in almost every way. While it is assumed that gods are divine entities incapable of human transgression, they are portrayed with all the flaws of mortals in The Iliad. The gods are a manifestation of human emotions consequently helping to explain the behavior of the humans in The Iliad. The actions of the heroes are what determine their fate, not divine intervention. Ultimately, the humans in The Iliad have inherent characteristics that provide the driving force behind their actions: the gods simply act in concert with them, allowing the human beings to exercise free will of
In conclusion, Homer’s the Iliad shows denial of fate being something that is enforced by the gods and as an unchangeable path to be taken by humans. While most of the characters in the Iliad do not know what fate has in store for them, they continue to fight, aspiring to have a glorified death, the type of honorable death that gives life meaning and makes warriors go down in history such as Achilles and Hector. The Iliad is quick to refer to fate when speaking of the action that unfolds, however, these perfect circumstances that combine to create the classic Homer epic cannot give all the credit to simply fate.
... was when the Greek armies were trying to seize the city of Troy without the help of Achilles , the fight was relentless. With the unfortunate death of Achilles beloved companion and friend Patrolcus, Achilles entered the war with the city of Troy only to wind up killing his enemy, Hector. In all of the fates predicted, Achilles knew ahead of time what the outcome could possibly be, with this in mind, Achilles has the freewill of whether to engage in the war and lose his life. However, fate had been reveal prior to the killing of Hector, Achilles engaged in war with revenge on his mind and fulfilled the prophecies.
The Iliad may be seen as an account of the circumstances that irrevocably alter the life of one man: Achilles, one of the greatest warriors. Throughout the course of the poem Achilles goes through many ordeals that change his character immensely. Starting with his quarrel with Agamemnon and withdrawal from battle, to the death of Patroklos, and with the slaying of Hektor. Achilles emotions and actions decide the fate of many warriors on both sides. Achilles struggles with anger, honor, pride, loyalty and love make the poem more that just a gruesome war story.
To view the links that are instilled between mortals, immortals, and fate in The Iliad, it is worthwhile to examine each on its own to observe how they connect. The characteristics of the three are inherently unique in relation to each other, though in some areas there is overlap. Man is defined as a mortal, someone who can die from old age and disease. Products from mortal and immortal procreation, such as the hero Achilles, fall into a sort of category all their own, but Achilles himself suggests that he would die from old age if he were to return home (9:502-505). In this weakness of the flesh they differ from the immortal gods, who cannot die from natural causes. Nevertheless, the gods share the imperfections of man: disloyalty, deceit, anger, and even lust. They see themselves as above man, and yet their actions are often as selfi...
The Iliad is not a story about the Trojan War at all, the war is just to set the stage for Homer to bring together the swift footed Achilles and Hector, the Prince of Troy, so they can be compared. The Iliad starts with how Achilles is dishonored by Agamemnon and withdraws from the war and ends with his return to the fight and eventually falling at the end. Hector is brought into the story and displays through his character what a real hero should be like.