In the book “Phaedo,” Plato discusses the theory of forms with ideas that concern the morality of the form. There are four philosophers that are expressed which are Phaedo, Cebes, and Simmias regarding the execution of Socrates. Socrates is presented in “Phaedo” on the morning of his execution where he is being killed. He tells his disciples Simmias and Cebes that he is not afraid of dying because a true philosopher should welcome and look forward to death but not suicide. A man should never commit suicide. He says that we are possessions of the Gods and should not harm themselves. He provides the four arguments for his claim that the soul is immortal and that a philosopher spends his whole life preparing for death. There are four arguments …show more content…
He views death as a separation of the soul from the body when the body and soul are together it is life. He believed this so powerfully, that he did not only fear death but welcomed it. Socrates believed that he had to live a life full and hope for death. He had to convince his disciples Cebes and Simmias to be okay with his death since they did not believe in his beliefs. Socrates believed that men were the property of the gods and stated, “it is gods who care for us, and for the gods, we human beings are among their belongings. Don't you think so?” (Phaedo, 62b). Cebes was in an agreement with Socrates on that argument. They both believed that if a man kills himself he will be punished. Cebes suggest that when the soul leaves a body, it may dissipate, no longer existing as one unit. However, Socrates argues that in favor of this myth, souls after death will eventually return to the world in other bodies. Everything that comes to come from its opposites that is explained in the first argument. Simmias then argues that destroying a body will destroy the soul in it. Cebes declares that there is no proof that the souls are immortal and suffer no negative effects after each death and rebirth. Socrates tries to convince his friends with the Argument of Opposites and the Theory of Forms. Socrates hopes that the theory of forms will help explain causation and proof of the
In his Plato’s Republic Socrates tries to find the values of an ideal city in order to rightly define justice. Although I agree with most of his ideals for the city, there are also many that I disagree with. Some of his ideas that I accept are that women should be able to share the same responsibilities as the men, having women and children in common, , the recognition of honor based on the self rather than heredity, that the best philosophers are useless to the multitudes, and the philosopher / king as a ruler. I disagree with his views on censorship, having assigned positions in society, his views on democracy, and that art cannot be a respectable occupation.
D.J Ciraulo, “On the Trail and Death of Socrates” which is chapter one is based on an Apology. Chapter one has a main charter named Plato. The author says, “Plato style of thinking and questioning is not only relevant to the beginning of science and politics, but is foundational to the next two thousand years of theology” (Ciraulo3). Plato explains the logical thought of death and which it stands at, what is human death? How can we determine that it has occurred? In the Introduction it quotes, that death is the defining condition of our humanity and How so? (Ciraulo ix). This chapter from Plato point of view he’s sees things his way. He informs the reader about the sciencefic thoughts but he doesn’t agree with everything. Plato was
According to Socrates in the Phaedo, philosophy is the practice of death. He claims that philosophers should openly welcome death and be willing to die. However, by no means does this imply that philosophers should consider suicide. It simply means that philosophers should be excited, rather than frightened, for death. Socrates, himself, is not scared of death because according to him, those who practice philosophy in the right way are training for death. Therefore, they are not resentful when death approaches. For Socrates in particular, life is not worth living, and death is not worth welcoming, unless one practices philosophy by seeking to obtain wisdom and knowledge. Philosophers seek wisdom and knowledge throughout their life, which is only truly obtained if the soul is separate from the body. By pursuing wisdom for a lifetime, philosophers are able to prepare for an illustrious afterlife with the gods. In doing so, they must purify themselves from the body’s immoral desires and passions. By practicing philosophy faithfully, true philosophers are able to welcome death by accepting that the only way to attain wisdom and knowledge is through striving to have the soul as it’s own entity.
This observation raises the awareness about how vicious the cycle of life and death is. Furthermore, how their relationship is ever occurring and seems unlikely to stop. This clarification that Socrates gives presents an even more realistic reason for believing that the soul persists. Because if the soul did not persist, then where would it go if not to replace its opposite? This line is based off of the thought of also assuming that all things in existence will stay in existence. In conclusion, Socrates opposites argument uses familiar examples and logic to justify why the soul persists
In Phaedo, there is an immense form of development and the dialogue focuses primarily on death and the immortality of the soul. It starts with Phaedo, Simmias and Cebes, all interlocutors who recount the story of Socrates execution. This dialogue is unique because it contains discussions of the philosopher, a soul’s immortality through the opposites, recollection, affinity and the last arguments. The philosopher is capable to relate to death and understand
In "The Phaedo," Plato explains his theory of forms and ideas concerning the mortality of the soul. We find that the soul and body are separate and that the soul lives after death and had lived before. This leads us to the idea of forms and how we acquire the knowledge of these before birth. The only time the soul is separate from the body is in death. Since the soul can only obtain knowledge of forms when it is away from the body, we understand that after death is the only time when the soul can acquire this information. The intellect loses these ideas of forms when it is born unto a physical body. Although forgotten, the soul still holds this knowledge and what is known as learning is actually remembering, or recollecting, the knowledge we lose at birth.
In Plato’s works Apology and Crito there is an attempt by Socrates to defend himself in court and defend his choice to receive the death penalty when found guilty. Although he makes very valid and strong arguments throughout one can only wonder why such a wise person would choose death over life. The following essay will analyze three quotes from Apology and Crito, find the correlation between them, and reveal any flaws that may exsist inside these arguments made by Socrates.
Phaedo is one of Plato’s classical dialogues which takes place between Socrates and his friends in the prison on his last day of life in 399 B.C. Phaedo is a conversation which mainly focuses on afterlife and soul or rather immortality of the soul. Plato 's Phaedo refers to this term commonly as “the final argument”. Final argument is divided into 3 arguments which consists of “Cyclical argument”, “Theory of Recollection argument” and “Affinity Argument”.
Phaedo was set in a prison. While in prison, Socrates contemplated whether or not there is an afterlife and whether or not the soul can survive death. He explains that we discuss the soul because it applies to all humans; it’s more personal, closer to us than the nature of being. Socrates adds that he doesn’t fear death because it means fearing your soul. You shouldn’t fear the unknown, but embrace it. Furthermore, he comes to the conclusion that the soul is immortal based on the following 3 arguments.
Socrates discusses that people should not fear death because we do not know the qualities of death. Even though we do not know what death is, he makes some suggestions for the possibilities after death. He suggests that maybe death is just an endless sleep without dreaming, it is where we can finally come to peace with ourselves. He also suggest that maybe in the afterlife he will be able to meet heroic people in the past, where he can share his experience and question people to see whether they are wise. Even in death Socrates is still going to practice philosophy even if the place is bad. Even if he did not live a just life that he thought he did, he can examine what he did wrong and fix the problems in the after life. I agree with Socrates
The Phaedo is a dialogue that portrays the last leading moments of the philosopher known as Socrates, before his execution. It is written from the perspective of Phaedo who was present at the time, and includes dialogue from Socrates and his friends: Cebes and Simmias. They discuss ideas surrounding the themes of death and various arguments for the immortality of the soul i.e. what can be expected to happen to the soul in the afterlife and how a philosopher should relate to death.
The final argument, Cebes argument says the body might harm the soul, or cause it to be destroyed over time. Socrates responds by establishing the casual power of forms. Forms are “ideas” but are also causes of things in the world. This is because the properties of things only belong to objects in relation to the forms they represent. These forms never become opposites. The idea of tallness can never be the idea of the
Socrates defines death as the separation of body and the soul through his dialogue with Simmias, “Is it simply the release of the soul from the body? Is death nothing more or less than this, the separate condition of the body by itself when it is released from the soul, and the separate condition by itself of the soul when released
Socrates was an insightful philosopher who had an opinion on all the basic fundamental questions. He had very strong beliefs that he willed others into believing through questioning and proving ignorance in others beliefs. He has particular views on every fundamental question and particular views on how people should live their lives. He says God has spoken to him about philosophy and says that it is his destiny and it is his calling in life. Through philosophy he searches for answers to the fundamental questions and gains wisdom and knowledge. The fundamental question of condition is the question of what, if anything, has gone wrong with the world? The question of solution is what can fix the problem? Then there is Death which asks what happens
Plato believed that the body and the soul were two separate entities, the body being mortal and the soul being immortal. In Plato’s phaedo, this is further explained by Socrates. He claims that by living a philosophical life, we are able to eventually free the soul from the body and its needs. If we have not yield to our bodily needs, we should not fear death, since it can than permanently detach the soul from the body. The most convincing argument for the immortality of the body is the theory of recollection, which shows that we are already born with knowledge of forms and that learning is thus recalling these ideas. If we are already born with knowledge this implies that are soul is immortal, since it would otherwise be a blank page.